Predestination and Relationships

Sorry to disappoint, but I haven't had much to blog about lately. Still stuck with this overdue essay. I'm currently halfway, but it's really screwing up my schedule. I'm gonna keep falling behind at this rate...

Had an interesting discussion last week about predestination - but not your average, deep, theological debate - it was on BGR!

Someone said that you don't need to worry about who you're gonna go out with, cause God has already chosen someone for you.

What do you reckon?
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20 comments:

~Emz~ said...

Well technically we shouldn't be worrying about anything at all! :P

Ernest said...

Hahaha...yes, so true.

Ok, wrong choice of words perhaps. Do we need to do anything to find the right bf/gf? Or not, since it's already chosen for you?

Anonymous said...

Need to do the hard yakka I believe. If everything's planned, I guess I'd let that CEO job come to me. Not that I'm comparing a bf/gf with a job. Orrr am I?

Oh Ernz, your profile picture of your silhouette looks kinda spooky. Like you're a "victim" of some heinous crime on 60 minutes, or worse the perpetrator, with your voice distorted. Anyways.

Ernest said...

hmm...now that you mentioned it, I guess it does look kinda spooky. I'll change it later.

Jobs and bf/gf...hmm...well, the hard yakka bit is sure true! Girls...I mean relationships, are hard work.

But if we're working hard to find the right person, where does God fit into the picture?

Anonymous said...

we're kinda short on experiences..^^ i guess it depends on your attitude?

Ernest said...

How much of our understanding of predestination can be based on experience?

Is experience the only way to learn about BGR?

What is the right attitude?

Food for thought...

Anonymous said...

i would agree with Phil. You've gotta work for it. If that wasn't the case, i'd just sit here and wait for my 100 UAI. That's the harsh reality of life. Working hard and having the right attitudes gives God more choice on what he can do for you and opens up possibilties for your future paths. However, when life looks grim, God still has his plans, but you gotta work your way around with what you've got at hand.

Am i making sense? well i dont think anyone will read this coz it's not he most recent blog.

Ernest said...

So if u dun work hard, does that limit God in what he can do?

u make perfect sense, and I read all the comments. :)

Anonymous said...

Well, in terms of logic- yes. In God's terms- Who knows?

Ernest said...

If what we do limits what God does, then he can God still predestine things?

Anonymous said...

God has planned out everything, we are never out of his plans. I understand that much.

To Em's comments regarding giving God more choice if we have the right attitude and work ethic. I think the concept of us doing things or being a certain way determines the "choices" God has, makes God seem so ... powerless? Perhaps it's the other way around? We make the choices, God has done everything and is God the planner.

Anonymous said...

this is utterly confusing! btw, my nick is "m".

anyway, so God "planned" us to rebel against him, even though he wanted perfection (or did he?).

Ernest said...

ahhh...now we're getting into the complexities of the issue...

It's confusing, but you're actually progressing along nicely. =D

Anonymous said...

i think predestination is sorta both ways...like the dual side rungs of a ladder. You can't have choice without predestination...like God knows and decides and plans what we do yet at the same time, we also have a choice.

in terms of relationships, I guess God knows what is best for us, like he has this perfect guy in mind and we'll just take it as it comes. That doesn't mean we chase after every guy but at the same time it isn't like apathy. It depends on our attitude coz it shoudln't belike i need a guy just coz its cool and everybody has one.

Anonymous said...

good analogy. But, we can't exactly make any
"choice" if the plan is already made for us by God. Can we go out of God's plan?

Anonymous said...

i've got a question...

when we say God's plan, is it his active planning of sequence of events or is it just his prior knowledge that these things will happen?

Ernest said...

This is getting more and more interesting. You're all making some great comments!

Re: kitz
When the Bible talks abt predestination, what does that mean?

Anonymous said...

where does the Bible talk about predestination specifically?

Ernest said...

Ahhh...finally we are getting to the Bible!

For starters, try:
Acts 13:48
Rom 8:28-30
Eph 1:4-6, 11-12
1Thess 1:4-5
2Thess 2:13
1Pet 1:1; 2:9

Anonymous said...

nice, thanks.
you should put a link to this comment place (if possible). it's getting harder to scroll down to find this post...

And shutterfly still isn't working for me. i tried it on another copmputer at home and its the same...

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